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Depends on how you look at it I guess. Perception. One might say teams in these Region 2 schools were more successful because they got their kids qualified easier. My post was sarcastic in nature. WVSSAC has rules to "level the playing field", but they seem to choose the ones they want to ...

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The only "speculation" seemed to be from Tench. Maybe it seemed weird cause your an alum of the same school?

Good Luck

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If parents truly loved their kids, they would simply move to an area where their kids can be more successful.

Oh wait that already happens.

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120 & 220 are the 2 weight classes with 4 wrestlers. All 8 qualify automatically.

Easy Gator! These boys gotta make weight first

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I'm sure they will, good luck to all.

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Yikes. Several weight classes with only 5-6 kids. Heck I think the biggest weight class may have 7 kids in it. Found a couple with only 4 kids. So everyone qualifies for states in that weight class as along as they make weight. :roll: Hopefully the WVSSAC sees this and changes are made for next yea...

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Just trying to give everyone the "benefit of the doubt".

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Is it against the rules to quote myself? :?: The "haves" will be able to get better while the "have nots" do not have the option. Frank, I did not say kids have "no option" and yes I agree we all have an option but we might not like it. I was referring to option, being ...

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Maybe they all wrestled a tough schedule.

There was a young man from Huntington High several years ago who had a losing record but finished 2nd in the state.

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Doc is smarter than most of us combined. I figure the rankings are more accurate than they are inaccurate. Remember most people who do not like the rankings may have trouble seeing them objectively. I am not defending the rankings for the use of the 5th place to fill in the bye. I am defending my op...

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Frank, It seems you like to have fun and I enjoy your posts. I do not disagree with all your "positive pay" posts. And I understand you are provoking thought, not necessarily supporting all your thoughts. If we use monetary motivation, the rich will get richer. The community with the most ...

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However, you can't get coaches to turn in results to be published which then limits the few coaches who vote on the rankings which can and does skew the very subjective rankings.

How are the rankings subjective?

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I am with bearhugger on this. Established rules for wrestle-offs and changing weights is important to team chemistry. When I was HC I had a clearly explained policy that winning 3 consecutive wrestle-offs resulted in that wrestler being named varsity for the rest of the season in that weight class,...

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"A good coach" has multiple meanings to different people.

Bear, are you saying that once "a good coach" has rules in writing they should not be changed during season?

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Why would South and Huntington not wrestle? Now that they are both in region 4 it would help with seeding.

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Nobody has presented that logical reason for the no, it's just "it's always been that way, so no". Your first mistake was asking for logical reasoning. To say that the rankings should then be taken into consideration for regional seeding tho is not valid. If you have been in seeding meeti...

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I spoke with my principal this morning, he's a former coach and very knowledgeable about the rules and policies. He verified what Mr. Carman (i think he posted it earlier) posted previously, pertaining to the rule change proposals. All proposals were due January 15. However some sport specific, in t...

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Yes! Another man with useless information in his head besides me! Gator look at the team finishes 2009 states, and maybe look closer at the quarterfinal matchup in the top bracket. Remember championship bracket is worth twice than consolation. I'm just trying to poke the bear. I would love to meet M...

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The folks who know understood your post Coach W. Careful Doc, the WVSSAC might fine you and your website for providing such avenues to make kids better. They will accuse you of recruiting. WVSSAC, such a toothless organization. :lol: If you are a young parent(without knowledge of wrestling) looking ...

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There is one team in region 4 if you wrestle them it is guaranteed that you will need eye protection. Just stating fact. Happens every match!!

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Truly I feel no person on here is trying to win an argument. They are deeply passionate plus they share a strong opinion for our sport. That's great news when so many responses are happening on the forum. Maybe HuggieBear isn't at work or burning the midnight oil yet, but the "puzzle" I po...

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South is going to win AAA. Independence is going to win AA/A. I really doubt this "bye filling wrestler" is going to shake up the team scores. Finishing 11th instead of 12th might be some kind of moral victory for some teams, but nobody will remember 3 minutes after they read the final re...

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This is all hypothetical. In reference to the 5th placer being moved into the BYE position in the bracket, he or she must be a scoring wrestler. If the criteria moved the wrestler into the tournament then they score team points. Now you might begin to see the human factor become involved. Currently ...

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Friday morning of state tournament as soon as weigh ins are finished. This year's meeting might be interesting.

Remember, even if the coaches agree and present it to the WVSSAC, they must still approve.

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You're not rude. You're asking questions. The Wrestling Coaches Association (meets Friday morning of States) has to cover the topic and vote on it. Then the topic needs to be presented to the WVSSAC and they will either approve or deny. The season has already started, therefore getting the region fo...

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There are proper channels to go through and steps necessary that can not be taken this season.

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There isn't much value placed on the msac tournament. Teams hold kids out to rest or to protect their seed for regionals.
Whether you like it or not it's been that way for years.

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Spring Valley is missing a couple starters as well. Where are they?

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Waiting for the, "rankings don't mean anything and they aren't accurate", argument.......

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Haha, you sound like me now Frank

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