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Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:06 pm

What teams might have a wrestler on the roster that is below 106 pounds?
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby TrueSouthFanInPburg » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:19 pm

Samantha Miller is a solid 99 pounds. She placed 4th out of 15 at Barnsville and beat the # 4 seated kid. She was not seated.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby technical violation » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:37 pm

Magnolia has one that weighs in the 80s

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby mscoach26 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:05 pm

Wrestlers are SEEDED not "SEATED" unless they are sitting down. If one is going to profess to know everything, one should at least read the rulebook.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Geoswaff » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:59 pm

Phillip Barber has 3 below 100 pounds and one that weighed in at Webster at 77. All 3 of them are fantastic wrestlers.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby aacoach30 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:02 pm

Point Pleasant has a beast at 91lbs :shock:

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby shemailman » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:50 pm

mscoach26 wrote:Wrestlers are SEEDED not "SEATED" unless they are sitting down. If one is going to profess to know everything, one should at least read the rulebook.


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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:17 pm

WV should become an innovator in wrestling and establish a "95 and below" weight class (or whatever poundage....93....90, etc)

It could be unofficial, no team points and blended in at the state tournament. Mix all classes AAA, AA and A. Treat it as an exhibition.

What does it accomplish?

1. It gives the smaller wrestlers a moment to display their skills in competition.
2. It could begin Thursday morning and create another session to charge admission on.
3. It might help keep more wrestlers involved until they pack on more size and pounds.

What does it hurt?
1. Not a damn thing.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby WrestlingFan1 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:02 am

Bearhugger wrote:WV should become an innovator in wrestling and establish a "95 and below" weight class (or whatever poundage....93....90, etc)

It could be unofficial, no team points and blended in at the state tournament. Mix all classes AAA, AA and A. Treat it as an exhibition.

What does it accomplish?

1. It gives the smaller wrestlers a moment to display their skills in competition.
2. It could begin Thursday morning and create another session to charge admission on.
3. It might help keep more wrestlers involved until they pack on more size and pounds.

What does it hurt?
1. Not a damn thing.

Disagree. What does it hurt? Another weight class to fill. Example, Independence would have to forfeit 95, in addition to 106. I guess what I'm saying is it would help some teams but, hurt others.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby ZZChooseTop » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:32 am

Exhibition solves that problem

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:35 am

ZZChooseTop wrote:Exhibition solves that problem


Some people read all of the key words and some do not. Yes, Exhibition. No team points was mentioned too. There is no pressure for any school to have an entry.

The schools that currently happen to have wrestlers below 100 would have something for those kids to look forward too.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby aacoach70 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:31 am

Nobody said the little guys weren't getting the opportunity to wrestle to some extent. In some cases cited, they are the starters at 106. There are very few high school aged males under 100 pounds, and seldom is a junior or senior that light, except by choice. There are limited options for the superlights, but they do have options. On the other hand, there are far more heavyweight kids that exceed the maximum weight. They won't ever grow into a class, so they are the true outcasts. Do an exhibition class for them, also. Life isn't easy. Little brother had to wait a little longer til he got that mini bike. Couldn't go hunting with the men until he could handle a weapon and was mature enough. Had to wait til 16 to get a driver's license. You must be this tall to ride this ride.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby ZZChooseTop » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:48 am

aacoach70 wrote:You must be this tall to ride this ride.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby pkbwrestling » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:00 am

Wouldn’t want someone who weighs 95 pounds wrestling someone who weighs 106.

I think 235 pound kids who wrestle kids who cut to make 285 would argue this.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:16 am

aacoach70 wrote:Nobody said the little guys weren't getting the opportunity to wrestle to some extent. In some cases cited, they are the starters at 106. There are very few high school aged males under 100 pounds, and seldom is a junior or senior that light, except by choice. There are limited options for the superlights, but they do have options. On the other hand, there are far more heavyweight kids that exceed the maximum weight. They won't ever grow into a class, so they are the true outcasts. Do an exhibition class for them, also. Life isn't easy. Little brother had to wait a little longer til he got that mini bike. Couldn't go hunting with the men until he could handle a weapon and was mature enough. Had to wait til 16 to get a driver's license. You must be this tall to ride this ride.


Show me ONE high school kid in West Virginia that cannot make the 285 pound limit that is not fat. What school has a student that wants to wrestle but he is just so big that he cannot make 285 and he has no fat to lose.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby aacoach70 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:11 pm

You don't think fat people would enjoy wrestling?

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:37 pm

aacoach70 wrote:You don't think fat people would enjoy wrestling?


I am fat and I enjoy wrestling, so yes.

I also know that fat people can lose weight to make the 285lb limit. It is easier for a 300lb kid to lose 15 pounds to become eligible at 285 than it is for a 91 pound kid to gain 15 pounds to become competitive at 106.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Frank » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:20 pm

I personally drop about ten pounds a season and gain about thirty new grey hairs.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby dunbar76 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:10 pm

Folks, before most matches the coaches already have an option of setting up an exhibition match. If both are below 100, well good. If one is and one is not, they can still have an exhibition match if the coaches think it is ok. This is a non-issue.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby greencrush » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:05 pm

shemailman wrote:
mscoach26 wrote:Wrestlers are SEEDED not "SEATED" unless they are sitting down. If one is going to profess to know everything, one should at least read the rulebook.


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Re: Less than 106?

Postby bearcat1 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:47 pm

Grafton has Noah Allman that typically weighs in around 98 pounds. He is a very good technical wrestler.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby KDunbar » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:23 am

It's interesting that a wrestler can only wrestle up two weight classes above his weight for safety reasons if I'm not mistaken, yet there is no lower limit on how little one can weigh and wrestle at 106. I guess it isn't that much of an issue often enough and dangerous enough for it to be addressed.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby guard0544 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:50 am

Bearhugger wrote:
aacoach70 wrote:You don't think fat people would enjoy wrestling?


I am fat and I enjoy wrestling, so yes.

I also know that fat people can lose weight to make the 285lb limit. It is easier for a 300lb kid to lose 15 pounds to become eligible at 285 than it is for a 91 pound kid to gain 15 pounds to become competitive at 106.


I saw a 285 earlier this year who didn’t appear to have much fat. I’d say he was at least 6’6” tall. I believe he was a South Charleston wrestler. He said he cuts 10 lbs to make weight.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:11 pm

dunbar76 wrote:Folks, before most matches the coaches already have an option of setting up an exhibition match. If both are below 100, well good. If one is and one is not, they can still have an exhibition match if the coaches think it is ok. This is a non-issue.


Agreed. However, there is never a given date that collects all of the "less than 106" wrestlers for one big event.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:12 pm

guard0544 wrote:
Bearhugger wrote:
aacoach70 wrote:You don't think fat people would enjoy wrestling?


I am fat and I enjoy wrestling, so yes.

I also know that fat people can lose weight to make the 285lb limit. It is easier for a 300lb kid to lose 15 pounds to become eligible at 285 than it is for a 91 pound kid to gain 15 pounds to become competitive at 106.


I saw a 285 earlier this year who didn’t appear to have much fat. I’d say he was at least 6’6” tall. I believe he was a South Charleston wrestler. He said he cuts 10 lbs to make weight.


That is big. However, he can make 285.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:17 pm

KDunbar wrote:It's interesting that a wrestler can only wrestle up two weight classes above his weight for safety reasons if I'm not mistaken, yet there is no lower limit on how little one can weigh and wrestle at 106. I guess it isn't that much of an issue often enough and dangerous enough for it to be addressed.


Good point. Some of us may remember when the weight classes were: 98, 105 and 113. Then on the other end, it was 167, 185 and unlimited. You had to weight at least 185lbs in order to take on a 300 to 500lbs opponent.
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Gator » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:28 pm

Bearhugger wrote:
KDunbar wrote:It's interesting that a wrestler can only wrestle up two weight classes above his weight for safety reasons if I'm not mistaken, yet there is no lower limit on how little one can weigh and wrestle at 106. I guess it isn't that much of an issue often enough and dangerous enough for it to be addressed.


Good point. Some of us may remember when the weight classes were: 98, 105 and 113. Then on the other end, it was 167, 185 and unlimited. You had to weight at least 185lbs in order to take on a 300 to 500lbs opponent.


I can remember 95 as the starting weight. I'm old!
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby aacoach70 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:55 pm

98, 105, 112, but I get it. There were 12 classes at that time too. We once had a 215lb boy make it to the state finals in the unlimited class back then. His smaller size in comparison to a very big opponent did make a difference in the match,.. but, hey, it was the state finals. Every boy has to be under his weight class, otherwise he'd not make weight, so a few pounds under weight is common. Then, consider the gap between classes of around 6-8% of body weight, and a 98 pound 106 is still within that range. Many lighter than 98 are still better than their heavier counterparts. Exhibitions would be quite sufficient.

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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Gator » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:04 pm

In 1979, John Marshall’s Rick Schoene defeated an undefeated wrestler at UNL while wrestling most the year at 185. I think he weighed in the 190’s at the time. Great match!
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Re: Less than 106?

Postby Bearhugger » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:05 pm

Gator wrote:
Bearhugger wrote:
KDunbar wrote:It's interesting that a wrestler can only wrestle up two weight classes above his weight for safety reasons if I'm not mistaken, yet there is no lower limit on how little one can weigh and wrestle at 106. I guess it isn't that much of an issue often enough and dangerous enough for it to be addressed.


Good point. Some of us may remember when the weight classes were: 98, 105 and 113. Then on the other end, it was 167, 185 and unlimited. You had to weight at least 185lbs in order to take on a 300 to 500lbs opponent.


I can remember 95 as the starting weight. I'm old!


Back in the days where there was little to no fast food and kids ate what was put on the table, 95lbs was doable. Today, we are up to 106.
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